Rothwell attenuator forum. Item #649774699. Hope you manage to sort some! S. Power amps -- Welborne 45 SET monoblocks 1. Asking Price: CAD $ 35. £125. 19-11-2015, 23:47. #7. Not boxed. Now, on to my question. from the rothwell product description: “Rothwell attenuators work by cutting the signal by 10dB with a potential divider. Wanted- Rothwell attenuators [Archive] - The Art of Sound Forum Dec 3, 2014 · i just received a pair of 15dB attenuators in the post. Page 2 of 2 < Prev 1 2. 6 % of your original signal. The Rothwell In-Line Attenuators are the answer. Realize that it takes about 10 db. Relevant specs are: Oct 28, 2004 · FS: Rothwell In-Line RCA Attenuators, complete with original packaging/box. The In-Line Attenuators from Rothwell are designed to combat this unwanted gain and allow you more control of the volume level of your hifi system. When used with integrated amps (simply plug Jan 23, 2007 · 01-23-2007 at 02:28pm. My volume control starts at roughly 7 o'clock by the time it reaches 8 o'clock thats a good listening level and 9 o'clock is loud but only on newer discs older discs you can turn it upto 11 o'clock anybody got any experience of this thanks Heres the solution to a problem from which far too many audiophiles suffer - too much gain in the system. Beresford Caiman II Dac, upgraded tc-7534 chip, with the original chip included, with Dorado power supply. Problem is is that the Rothwell attenuators dramatically alter the sound. of attenuation may appear to have little or not effect if the original signal is that overly strong and overpowering. They can be used with integrated amps or pre/power amps, and are compatible with equipment over the entire price spectrum, from budget to extreme high end. Dec 18, 2022 · Rothwell attenuators come in both RCA phono and XLR, and a whole range of values. mr sneff. Slotting them into the system, the difference in volume is immediately noticeable. 37. The blue LED doubles as a night light Mar 8, 2008 · Forums > Audio and Hi-Fi Gear > Hi-Fi and General Audio > Do inline attenuators work? There seem to be a fair few sets of Rothwell Attenuators coming up for sale May 2, 2013 · The ones you mention, the Rothwell attenuators should work. 12-17-2002 at 05:35pm. 20 db would give you 10% of your original signal. If you know the required values then you might experience better sonic performance by replacing them with Holco, Caddock, or Vishay's avalable from Michael Percy Audio. Nov 6, 2009 · Rothwell Attenuators. The attenuators being discussed here contain two resistors arranged as a voltage divider, which reduces the input voltage by a set amount depending on the value of the resistors chosen. The symptoms are common. 10 db drop will give you a voltage of 31. I have the opportunity to swap the attenuators to -20db and would like to know if that would be better than the -10db pair as far as SQ is concerned. 4k7 => -9. Now sold. The control on the amp goes up to 10, and the system is too loud to comfortably Nov 10, 2014 · Page 3 - Seeking answers? Join the What HiFi community: the world's leading independent guide to buying and owning hi-fi and home entertainment products. Feb 23, 2018 · A pair of 10 db balanced Rothwell attenuators would do the trick, and would not result in any impedance issues given the 100K balanced input impedances of the amps you mentioned, and the unspecified but presumably fairly low output impedance of the DAC. I've trod this path before and owned all three (10/15/20). LinearMan. Will ship within the Continental U. Learn More. Jul 5, 2012 · I'm sat here listening to music through my Vortexbox via USB into my HRT Music Streamer II, at a reasonable level, yet with the volume control not even at 8 o'clock. panther66. Shipping extra. grounding resistor. 1 pair soldone pair remaining Rothwell In-Line Attenuators for sale. Effective way to tame an excessively 'gainy' component and use more of your volume control. So I assume, if in somebodys system these conditions are not met, the attenuator will not serve well. Posted Sep 13, 2021 · SOLD - FOR SALE: Rothwell Attenuators 10db . Used Rothwell 10Db Attenuator for sale on 300+ second hand hifi sites & shops. Whoopsie! Thought i'd check if someone has some in a 85. I had RA attenuated interconnects and they made a difference to the better, as ever improved clarity and better volume control. Ones i'm looking at are the balanced version. These audiophile devices simply plug into any input sockets and reduce signal levels by 10dB. 184. These audiophile devices plug into any input sockets and reduce signal levels by 10dB; this is the standard version. Has USB in, headphone out and volume control which The Art of Sound Forum > Hi-Fi Studio & Trade > Private Exhibitions View Full Version : For Sale: Rothwell Attenuators. No interest if paid in full in 12 months. FOR SALE: Rothwell in line 10db attenuators . They can be used with integrated amps or pre/power amps and are compatible with equipment over Apr 14, 2020 · Apr 14, 2020. looks like i have more options, a beautiful thing! broussard, i did notice those goldenjacks Mar 18, 2010 · Steve aka ' Twelvebears ' (it's a long story) System: Technics 1210 Mk5, Jelco 750 arm, AT33EV via MF X-LP2 Phono Stage, Oyaide mat and record clamp. I think they are very transparent in use, they don't seem to add or, take, anything away from the basic character of the sound, apart from lowering the volume. cookiemonster. Jackthebiscuit Allrise. Has anyone any experience of them and the effect on sound quality? 71. Back then it set new standards for passive pre-amps, being the only British made pre-amp to feature a true stepped attenuator and offering more volume settings (66) than anything else commercially available anywhere. I also don't need source-end attenuation anymore. My conclusion after trying these is that the best inline attenuator in no inline attenuator. By dividing the steps into a coarse and fine stepped attenuator, it offers a lot of steps combined, while having only two resistors in the signal path at all times, keeping the maximum output impedence a lot lower than most others. from technical chaps on another forum, all pointing to my need for between -20 dB and -25 dB to reduce my CDP's 3 V output to better match the meters of my pre. EMT transfer. Joined: Jan 5, 2004 · Rothwell Attenuators - What are they? How do they work? Discussion in 'Hi-Fi and General Audio' started by Uncle Ants, Jan 5, 2004. Parts quailty of the resistor attenuator elements may be compromised. Ive read a few things and reviews about using Rothwell 10db attenuators Jun 18, 2019 · Rothwell's attenuators start at -10db, they also sell -15db & -20db models. RCA centre pin to grounding resistor to ground. 7db. Discussion in 'Classified Adverts' started by cookiemonster, Oct 2, 2003. These attenuators, or ones you could make with a few resistors, are no different from the multiposition Attenuators costing several hundred dollars that some audiophiles prefer to pots for gain control, except that they are permanently set to one particular value of attenuation. May 1, 2010 · Yes, Tarquinh, you're absolutely right. I bought these new from Rothwell, because I needed to step the gain down from a Musical Fidelity M6Pre, and they work extremely well for that Pair of Rothwell RCA in-line attenuators. Jan 25, 2008 · Know everything about Pear Cables v. Discussion in 'audio' started by Ian Austen, Apr 30, 2021. Item #649507065. Jul 16, 2009. Dec 29, 2022 · There is no advantage to use of an analog attenuator. The trick in making these work well is the choice of resistors so that there is close channel matching (claimed to be 0. As new. The little things themselves are immaculately manufactured and presented - as you would hope. However according to the review, their can be a negative effect on the sound, in terms of the loss of 'attack' and 'excitement'. In my case, I bought these because Jul 8, 2021 · Jul 21, 2021. Yes, in fact, the quality of the Rothwells is doubtful, although the internal resistances are 1% tolerance, but maybe they are counterfeit. The Rothwell In-Line Attenuators work by cutting the signal by 10dB with a potential divider. Aug 20, 2007 · Rothwell Attenuators. They felt that if the 'Rothwell In-Line Attenuator' made use of higher-end Dec 16, 2004 · 12-17-2004 at 04:27pm. 6db. The phonostage is different to the current Rothwell Simplex mm phonostage, using a higher quality transistor implementation (better matching) and a May 8, 2024 · Description. Whoopsie! Thought i'd check if someone has some in a drawer before I go to ebay for a new set. I’ve measured the single-ended version of that attenuator as consisting of a 22K resistor Apr 8, 2009 · I've just fitted a pair of these to my system (see below) so I thought I'd share my first impressions. I waited 3 weeks for these. Accessories. Smells lovely and leathery. C. Now that I've moved away from Naim, I'm finding -20dB is too much attenuation for my needs. Mar 16, 2023 · Hifiman Deva Planar magnetic headphones with separate bluetooth adapter. Both analog and digital attenuation reduce the theoretical SNR of the preamp output signal. I was wondering if anyone here at Audiogon has been using this device and with what level of success. -20dB is the choice of many, perhaps because that’s the level that was often found on amplifiers with a button to lower output. I had the problem that the music was already too loud with the volume control between the seven and eight o'clock position. Of course, switch contacts are also avoided. 19,270. Visit site. Retail Price: CAD $70. I ordered them yesterday afternoon and they The Rothwell In-Line Attenuators are the answer. REVIEW: Rothwell Electronics 10db inline attenuator Accessory 63. I've ended up with about four different sets along the way. Nov 7, 2021 · Forums; Gallery; Place Ads; Ad Notification; Dealers; > Rothwell in line 10db attenuators. Payments to be done via Paypal gift or Bank Transfer. 36 shipping The Art of Sound Forum > Hi-Fi Studio & Trade > Private Rothwell Attenuators -10dB. 33 [ Follow Ups ] Thread: [ Display All Email ] [ Amp/Preamp Asylum ] I asked my manufacturer (well, a chap who works there) and also got 3 lots of informed info. 00 inc postage ta. Paypal or bank transfer. I could do a dB test too just to see. I put in some Rothwell attenuators (-10db) and now I'm at about 10 o'clock with the same result. Rothwell sell attenuators for exactly this purpose. In very good ''used'' condition. The Vincent has a pretty big heaping helping of gain. Jan 13, 2024 · Hi folks, As title please. The resistors which form the divider are carefully chosen so that they will work well when used with Mar 20, 2015 · The In-line Attenuators from Rothwell UK are designed to: 1. Brand New. T. but now i am considering in-line rca attenuators if i buy a cd player with a fixed output level. - Oct 22, 2020. Canuck Audio Mart is free for casual users and is almost entirely supported by sponsors, banner advertising, and some paid features. 8W / Decware Taboo 6W / Elekit 300B TU-8600SVK plus further improved components 9W / ICE Power 1000W Feb 11, 2023 · im comin to the AK community here for experience, info and understanding about inline attenuators and impedance matching. Mar 13, 2021 · I was hoping it wouldn't be. Serviced by Andrew Rothwell in June 2020 (service doc provided) and in full working order. As the title says above. Filters normally use capacitors. This audiophile devices simply plug into the phono/XLR sockets of your pre, power or integrated amp and reduce signal levels by 10dB to allow for a more control over the sound at lower volumes. Cheers, Apr 25, 2023 · I have some Rothwell -20dB source attenuators. They were less tha £50 and I see now the cheapest cable with attenuation is the Tonik at £79, which is less than the £97 attenuators. All that an attenuator does is reduce the volume by 10db. I'd like to attenuate the signal to my Carver Crimson 275 amp, as we are at full bore volume at, say, 10 o'clock--and I mean LOUD. Discussion in 'Classified Adverts' started by LinearMan, Aug 20, 2007. As a guide, their online shop suggests that -10db seems to suit most situations, but it may just come down to experimentation. 00. Feb 4, 2003 · The third alternative is that Keene Electronics sell phono in-line attenuators at £8 each are these likely to be significantly worse quality than the Rothwell ones? One advantage of the KIMBER interconnects is that I can get a 14dB version whereas the Rothwell are only 10dB and the Keene are upto 12dB. Hi folks, Currently I’m using the combination of a Marantz CD63KI with a Pioneer A400, granted both far from stock but a lovely sounding setup. I've cut back the outer caseso they will accept any rca plugsPrice is £25. 2. I'm the original May 5, 2009 · I have been reading about this on the DIY forum. Jan 20, 2022 · For sale is a pair of Rothwell 10db attenuators. Canuck Audio Mart is FREE! But we can use your Support. Rothwell RCA In-Line Attenuators Pair -20dB (For Source) Opens in a new window or tab. ON. I use -20dB with mine. C $82. Great results fed from an Ortofon Cadenza Blue. Sponsored post - log in to remove this ad. S. southall-1998. When used with integrated amps (simply plug Jun 1, 2005 · Could anyone tell me the pro's and con's of the Rothwell Attenuators. Sep 22, 2022 · ROTHWELL BALANCED XLR IN-LINE ATTENUATORS! 10 and 20 db 15db as well i think. They plug into the output of your source rather than the amp, so they are perfect for attenuating non-Naim sources I Naim systems. 1 dB) and appropriate input and output impedance. - Nov 18, 2018. i thought initially that i would buy a cd player with volume control to get around this excess gain issue. -20dB is the choice of many, perhaps because that’s the level that was often found on amplifiers with a button to lower output. Rothwell. The Rothwell attenuators are quite simple really. Yesterday, I borrowed 2 sets of RCA in-line attenuators; -14 dB and -10 dB from a friend. The Amazing Randi? This is your forum. Info: Rothwell In-Line Attenuators RCA. Buyer pays cost of shipping. They’re on the expensive side, especially the XLR type, but they are good quality. Watch Report This Ad For sale are my Rothwell Attenuators (-20dB) Purchased new by myself, from ebay member ''chord2475'' earlier this year. These are the "source" attenuators, which are intended to be used on the output sockets of CD players and pre-amps (as opposed to the input sockets of pre-amps and Jul 21, 2020 · I have a boxed set of Rothwell 10db attenuators for sale. . I sold my -10db attenuators as I wasn't using them, but on plugging back in the Leak seem to have far less volume play than before, so thinking like a plonker I may have sold the wrong set accidentally, my -20db set. I sold my -10db attenuators as I wasn't using them, but on plugging back in the Leak seem to have far less volume play than before, so thinking like a plonker I may have accidentally sold my -20db set. May 1, 2021 · Home Forums > discussion > audio > Rothwell Attenuators. 2k0=>-15. SB Touch via Marantz PM-11S1 amp and Wilson Benesch A. These are simple devices based on potential dividers housed in otherwise straight-through female-male phono plugs. Access a forum of audio enthusiasts; Basic Dealer For $150CAD a year, you'll get: May 22, 2022 · It could also increase distortion somewhat. It is. Mar 8, 2008 · An inline attenuator seems to be in fact a passive preamp built into an interconnect. Watch Report This Ad. The symptoms are easy enough to spot - the volume is plenty loud enough with the volume control set to the 9 oclock position, too loud with the volume control at 10 oclock, and fine control at low levels is impossible. They look to be ext Jun 22, 2019 · I think filtering is an incorrect term to use when speaking about passive attenuators like those suggested in this thread. #2. Because of this reduction in volume, the volume can be turned up more, to the amps optimal performance level. I took the plunge yesterday. If it's for the Leak you want to pick up -15dB or ideally -20dB. $75. Catalog. Jan 12, 2024. Check out the newest Music Direct catalog. -6 dB. JimmyB pfm Member. The resistors which form the divider are carefully chosen so that they will work well when used with power amps whose input impedances are in the range of 10k to 1M, and with pre amps whose output impedances are in the range of anything up to about 10k. Firstly, the service at Rothwell is superb. Dec 4, 2021 · Rothwell in-line attenuators are a simple, affordable, proven, anyone-can-do-it solution to a problem plaguing many systems: excess gain. Hi folks, Anybody interested in selling a pair of Rothwell attenuators ( RCA) ? Want to try a pair second hand to see if it makes a difference so would prefer modest prices please. For Sale: Discussion in 'Classified Adverts' started by Jackthebiscuit, Nov 6, 2009. As to any difference between XLR and RCA attenuators, there should be even less difference with XLR attenuators as every bit of pro kit with XLR outputs will happily drive down to 600 ohms, so the lower input impedance with the attenuators in circuit should have no effect. thanks for the input guys. and. This article has a good summary of the preconditions of a passive pre working well. Improve signal-to-noise ratio and resolution. The resistors which form the divider are carefully chosen so that they will work well when used with power amps whose input impedances are in the range of 10k to 1M, and with pre amps whose output impedances are in the range of anything up to about 10k Feb 8, 2006 · use a 10k in line and then choose a grounding resistor from the list. Jun 12, 2010 · The very unique thing about the Rothwell is the dual volume control. 3. Post subject: Re: best XLR In-Line Attenuator. SEE HOW WE PACK YOUR RECORDS Learn More. 33. Mar 10, 2019 · FOR SALE: Rothwell In-Line Attenuators RCA. And First Watt B1 active no gain buffer. Post subject: Rothwell Attenuators. Feb 4, 2012 · I tried a pair of -10db Rothwell attenuators at input to the amp and find that I get to a comfortable listening volume at the 10 o'clock position. Wanted. However, we also offer the -15dB, so if you need more reduction, go for this version. They are designed to attenuate levels and be inserted in one of two places; in between a line level source, such Jun 18, 2019 · Each -3 dB. Right now they are between the cd player and pre-amp. Disclaimer-- my system, my room, etc. at the cost of £38. In any case, the output impedance of these attenuators are higher than the DAC one, so it's not very good for the amplifier (this impedance should be as low as possible, as confirmed by Aug 5, 2019 · FOR SALE : Rothwell In-Line Attenuators XLR. Rothwell RCA in-line attenuators. increment will decrease the signal by half of the previous increment. May 22, 2022 · How did you decide -20db would give the correct level of attenuation? Tried some Rothwell attenuators a few years back and they did affect system sound. Access a forum of audio enthusiasts; Dealer For $150CAD a year, you'll get: Rothwell 10dB XLR Attenuators. £24 inc delivery. speakers. They weren’t linear across the frequency range and higher frequencies suffered the most, they robbed the music of life. Rothwell attenuators come in both RCA phono and XLR, and a whole range of values. S. Buy It Now +C $30. Aug 10, 2019 · Pre amps -- Hi fi Collective twin mono ladder stepped attenuator, with Charcroft Z-foil and silver wired. Financing. This may seem like nothing more than a minor irritation, but in truth May 28, 2006 · The Rothwell attenuator is another tweak that sounds great in theory. Variable would allow you to set gain exactly of course. Jan 14, 2006 · I've been using a pair of Rothwell attenuators for quite some time now on my CD input to my pre. Oct 2, 2003 · Forums > The Market Place > Classified Adverts > Rothwell Attenuators. On the basis of what they did to the sound (low frequencies practically disappeared) I am not going to tread the Rothwell attenuator path. 28-05-2019, 12:19. They are a male RCA plug on one end, and a female RCA at the other. Feb 28, 2009 · Last week I installed these Rothwell attenuators between my Yamaha NP-S303 network player and NAD C356BEE integrated amp and I am very happy. They can improve signal to noise ratio in pre/power amps. #1. Use Hifi Shark to monitor pricing Aug 21, 2018 · Actually I found Harrison Labs Attenuators on Ebay-UK for a price similar to the Rothwell-Harrison Labs 6 dB RCA Line Level Attenuator Pair 844632053092 | eBay Harrison Labs 12 dB RCA Line Level Attenuator Pair 844632053108 | eBay UK£26/pr for the -6db UK£26/pr for the -12db These are from Parts Express, so apparently they have an agent in i have a pair of rothwell attenuators doing newt £20 delivered, the marking on the cases seems to have rubbed off a bit but they work as intended1612116122 rothwell attenuators -10db [Archive] - The Art of Sound Forum Dec 16, 2002 · When I first got the cary I couldn't turn the volume up past the 8 o'clock position! That was about as loud as I could stand. . Top. I can now turn The Rothwell In-Line Attenuators work by cutting the signal by 10dB with a potential divider. Mar 26, 2017 · It seems to me that a pair of Rothwell audio in-line attenuator costs the same no matter where i look, 39£ Isn't there anywhere i can get a pair - 10db rca Jun 28, 2017 · Been using a Headspace head amp for a few months with a Slee Accession mm stage. chord2425 (142,419) 99. May 15, 2024 · (Failed)filename Unsupported photo file type. Joined: Dec 10, 2004 Welcome to the Audio Forums! Mar 30, 2018 · 1 x pair of -10 db Rothwell attenuators. j canuck wrote: ROTHWELL BALANCED XLR IN-LINE ATTENUATORS! 10 and 20 db 15db as well i think. These audiophile devices simply plug into any input sockets and reduce signal levels by 10dB (or 15 dB). Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:56 pm. Lovely feel and well made attenuators! £29, posted. A few reviews of the 'Rothwell In-Line Attenuator' portray the device as working very well to indeed to sort volume control issues etc. Allows for more precise control of volume, especially with stepped attenuators. I did buy a pair of Rothwell 10-dB attenuators and the pboblem is solved. 99. Interconnect core to 10k to RCA centre pin. May 4, 2012 · Forum rules The Cables forum is intended for those who believe cables make a difference in how their systems sound. £20 UK posted. s. You ideally want to drop it enough it doesn't overload the USB device, but not a whole lot more. Your volume sounds loud enough with the volume control set to the 9 o'clock position, but too loud at 10 o'clock – and fine control at low levels seems impossible. Welcome to the Audio Forums, Rothwell Line Attenuator minus 10db High End Zubehör Kleinanzeigen €25 Nov 17, 2018. Mark Grant cables and PS Audio Power Plant Premier mains regenerator. When used with integrated amps (simply plug The Indus SE Passive Pre-Amp. 9%. The Harrison Labs is better than the MCM, but both The Rothwell In-Line Attenuators are the answer. Solve the common yet often overlooked problem of mismatched and excessive system gain. I'm selling because the amp I bought them for got sold while I was waiting. Rothwell 10dB The High quality Rothwell attenuator plugs into source input on your amp, preamp or receiver to cut the gain from your amp by 10db and gives you another inch or more travel on your volume knob which gives you improved sound just from better use of the volume knob due to better balance between channels. These reduce signal levels by 20dB to improve control of volume at low levels. These high-quality attenuators provide a fixed -20 dB of attenuation. pp gift or bank transfer cheeerz. Rothwell 10db In-Line Signal Attenuator $55 Shipped to Anywhere in Canada Canuck Audio Mart CA$55 Oct 22, 2020. £14 for the pair off eBay and they sound every penny of £14 so I am kind of back to square one. Rothwell attenuators- just the thing! Posted by Bambi B (A) on June 3, 2005 at 09:27:04 In Reply to: Re: Revox B-160 Tuner: output too high with Audio Research SP8 and D-130 posted by sleeper on May 23, 2005 at 23:29:27: sleeper, Thanks for the recommendation. I've tried inline attenuators from MCM Electronics, and the Harrison Labs inline attenuator sold by Headroom (still have them, actually, and if anyone wants them after the rest of this post PM me). ONLY. Payment method: The Rothwell In-Line Attenuators are the answer. 3k0=> -12. I am currently using the Sonic euphoria with my vintage Beveridge 2sw Electrostatics (with self contained OTL amps) to good effect. Apr 24, 2024 · Apr 24, 2024. #26. Up for sale, my 10dB XLR Rothwell In-Line attenuators. Useful loading & gain options. 9db these low atten give more risk of HF roll off. change in power to make a signal appear to be twice as loud or half as loud. They add or subtract nothing to / from the sound. Inside the attenuator is a "ladder type" resistor network that reduces the attenuation by 10dB through this plug. Please upload the file as a post attachment instead. Mar 23, 2021 · Bought last summer, this is a very good (stepped attenuator) passive pre-amp, with integral mm phonostage. Dec 16, 2002 · 1,834 posts. Purchased new around 5 months ago, no longer required as changed to XLR cables. Feb 17, 2013 · The Rothwell In-Line Attenuators are the answer. Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:34 pmPosts: 133Location: Montreal, QC, CA. 3k9=>-11db. The Indus is our longest running and probably most famous pre-amp, first introduced in 1989. The only issue, which is surprising given the popularity of this combination, is the volume control. These are extremely high quality attenuators, useful when your system gain is too high and you don't have enough volume increments. Good, modern amps provide only 100 dB SNR, so using a 20 dB attenuator between the preamp and amp is dominated by the latter. Apr 1, 2010 · Hi everybody, I'd been circling these for ages, as I knew I had too much gain in my system (I couldn't even get to 9 o'clock on the the volume dial before it was too loud). qq fm li ww tv ub pu dr xl hi